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Obama and the Religious Right

by: psericks

Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 12:30:36 PM CDT


In the flurry of arguments about McClurkin, I wanted to try to offer some perspective: 

On World AIDS Day, December 1st, 2006, Barack Obama traveled deep into Orange County, California, to visit a conference at Saddleback Church being led by Rick Warren.

Rick Warren, although outspoken on issues of abortion, happens to think that AIDS has been devastating both here at home and around the world and that we have a moral obligation to act. 

There are religious leaders who show no tolerance on gay marriage, but who happen to feel that the Earth is God's creation and are more open to conservation measures than some of their leaders might suggest.  There are those who, when it comes to homosexuality, believe that one should 'Love the sinner, hate the sin' --- but are as interested as anyone in providing health care to children, preventing genocide in Darfur, and stopping the exploitation of the Third World through sexual trafficking.  And contrary to their Republican leaders, a lot can perhaps be moved by the argument that we are our brother's keeper and we have allowed poverty to persist at home for far too long.

psericks :: Obama and the Religious Right

Obama insisted in his 2004 DNC speech that we secretly have more in common than our leaders would have us believe, that social issues have been used to drive coalitions apart that could do dramatic good in the world. 

At Saddleback, Obama took a public AIDS test alongside Republican Senator Sam Brownback --- and he did not waver in his message or shy away from speaking out about the desperate need to include contraception as a way to prevent AIDS:

 

Having said that, I also believe that we cannot ignore that abstinence and fidelity may too often be the ideal and not the reality - that we are dealing with flesh and blood men and women and not abstractions - and that if condoms and potentially microbicides can prevent millions of deaths, they should be made more widely available.

I know that there are those who, out of sincere religious conviction, oppose such measures. And with these folks, I must respectfully but unequivocally disagree. I do not accept the notion that those who make mistakes in their lives should be given an effective death sentence.

We can disagree forcefully on certain issues --- on contraception, on homosexuality, on abortion --- but still be capable of coming to the table.  Appearing publicly with others does not have to mean that we are compromising on our convictions or endorsing each and every one of their views.  

During Obama's 2004 DNC convention speech, the political event of his life, an event that would make his career, he did not hesitate to speak out against homophobia:

...Alongside our famous individualism, there's another ingredient in the American saga, a belief that we are all connected as one people.... It is that fundamental belief-I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper-that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family: "E pluribus unum"; out of many, one....  There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America. There's not a black America and a white America and a Latino America and an Asian America; there's the United States of America.

The pundits like to slice our country into red states and blue states.... But I've got news for them, too: We worship  an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states. We coach Little League in the blue states, and yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states.

Obama has never hesistated, in his outreach to the faith-based community, to be upfront about his disagreements. 

All of this talk about McClurkin leads me to a question: If Rick Warren were to endorse Barack Obama --- he won't, but let's say that he did --- if Warren were to decide to endorse Obama based on his work on AIDS, or on his willingness to work with the faith community, should Obama refuse that endorsement based on Warren's statements on abortion and gay marriage?

If Warren were to hold a fundraiser for Obama in order to support his work on other issues, would Obama be responsible for all of Warren's statements on any issue?

How do we expect to govern and produce change on global problems like climate change and poverty and AIDS if we turn away from potential allies?

For more on Obama's unequivocal and strong positions on LGBT issues, see this factsheet or his answers to the HRC questionaire.  You can also visit the campaign's LGBT blog

 

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Obama on homophobia in the black community (3.00 / 3)
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terrific video (4.00 / 2)
Obama IS big tent.  Listen to his respectful tone and how he can listen and respond to opposing sides but with firmness for his position.

I love that line about some folks who elevate one line in Romans above the Sermon on the Mount.


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Speak to Everyone (4.00 / 1)
The issue circles right back to the foreign affairs discussion of do we speak with our enemies without preconditions.  There is a strong feeling among many so-called Progressives, who actually act regressive, that we need to apply a litmus tests to every situation to find either a reason to not engage or more often a reason to criticize for engaging. We have allowed the Christian Right to take over the Christian Community because of our unwillingness to let our vocal leaders appear side by side with those of other views and challenge them.  Instead of praising Obama for going on stage with McClurkin, people try to criticize him as if it is an endorsement.  It is a challenge, it is an opportunity to go in there and present our way of thinking.  Another page to be turned. Time to  throw off this old way of thinking which lets dictators and/or bigots take control.  Good for Barack.

McClurkin issue (4.00 / 4)
As a proud out gay man and a long time activist, I find myself unable to become as worked up around the issue of gospel singer Donnie McClurkin's inclusion in an Obama concert as many of my colleagues have.

McClurkin's bizarre views on the subject are anathema to anyone who cares about equality. Clearly he is a troubled man whose personal struggles with sexuality have caused him to adopt a hateful message. How sad for him, and how unfortunate for all of us that he chooses to spout his hateful speech in public. If McClurkin were running for President (or any other office), I would be working hard to defeat him.

If the Obama campaign had invited him to speak about human sexuality, or appointed him to an advisory committee on human rights, or otherwise given him a platform for his views, I would be as angry as so many others seem to be.

But McClurkin isn't supporting the campaign as a spokesperson on these issues - he's singing gospel songs. As it happens, Donnie McClurkin is a talented gospel singer with a huge following, especially among a subset of religious African-Americans. His participation will attract a large number of Democratic voters who are attracted to his voice, not necessarily his viewpoints (which presumably he won't be given the opportunity to voice at the concert). I'm pleased that those attending the concert will also hear an openly gay minister speak - not something that usually happens at a gospel concert. Talk about a teachable moment.

Like it or not, any candidate for President needs the support of millions of people who have dramatically different viewpoints on a large number of issues. Rejecting support from all who disagree (even on a fundamental issue) makes it impossible for any candidate to effectively reach the broad spectrum of the American voting public.

Is every candidate for President suddenly going to be held accountable for the views of all their supporters? Will entertainers, politicians, community leaders, bloggers, activists and others who are asked to lend support to a campaign be excluded for holding viewpoints that will be offensive to some voters?

If that is the test, I'm sure we can find plenty of other outrageous examples of homophobic, racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, classist, ageist, xenophobic or similarly offensive statements by supporters of other candidates as well. Do we really think Hillary Clinton has never invited an outspokenly homophobic minister to share the stage, or that they weren't invited to the Clinton White House? Are we sure that none of John Edwards southern supporters haven't uttered homophobic statements before (or voted for hate inspired legislation)? For that matter, what are we too make of the fact that Hillary's number one supporter gave us DOMA, DADT, and cost lives by refusing to lift the ban on needle exchange? Should I refuse to vote for her because of the hateful things Bill did for political expediency?

For me, the issue isn't the viewpoints of those who sing at candidate events, it is the positions and record of the candidate themselves.

Barack Obama's record on gay and lesbian issues is clear and consistent. He speaks out loudly and unequivocably on these issues, and his legislative record is clear and without flaws. (And for those white liberals who are somehow convinced that all religious African-Americans are fundamentalist bible-thumpers, it is worth pointing out that Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, an emphatically progressive church that fully supports gay rights - including marriage.)

With the sad exception of the marriage issue, we are fortunate that all of the candidates for the Democratic nomination are taking clear positions in support of lgbt Americans. Barack Obama's policy positions and record in this regard are second to none of the major candidates.

I continue to support Barack Obama because I believe that he is the best candidate for the office. He is uniquely suited to restore America's place in the world, and to change the political dialogue at home. In the end, I believe Barack Obama will be the best President not just for glbt equality, but for all Americans, and the world.

I realize that this may put me in a distinct minority among many who are blogging on this subject. I respect the viewpoints of those who have a different opinion than I do, but I wanted to share my perspectives on the topic.

Terje Anderson
Montgomery, Vermont 

(Terje Anderson is the former Executive Director of the National Association of People with AIDS, and a long time activist on queer and HIV/AIDS issues at the local, state, national, and international level).


Thanks for this! (0.00 / 0)
This is one of the most thoughtful takes on the "controversy" that I've read.  It's important that voices like yours are heard. 

I think a lot of Obama supporters also had concerns about all of this, and it's great to have a place where they can be addressed.  (It's also great just to hear from people who aren't losing their heads over this!)

Did you see some of these other responses out there in the blogs?  There are some good ones.  I'll give it to the blogosphere.  It sometimes takes us a while.  And the most intolerant folks often post the fastest and the loudest, but the good voices get heard eventually.

It would be great if this website helped make that happen.  Thanks for posting!


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Make This A Diary Somewhere! (4.00 / 1)
I enjoyed reading this response on TPM last night. Just want to add that it's important eloquent writing like this gets posted as its own diary and not just in comments sections. If you'd posted this as a diary on DailyKos I'm sure it would've made the recommended list.

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Thank you Terje (4.00 / 1)
Thank you for posting such an eloquent response.  I wish it could be posted verbatim in every hateful thread I've come across.

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